Tuesday, April 24, 2018

High School athletes going to the NBA

Articles
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-smack-ryan-spt-0414-20150413-story.html



Discussion questions:

  1. Should the NBA allow players right out of high school be eligible for the draft?
  2. What are the benefits of having players coming right out of high school?
  3. What would be some of the cons of players coming out of high school?

22 comments:

  1. 1. Should the NBA allow players right out of high school be eligible for the draft?
    1. I don’t think the NBA should allow high school players to be eligible for the draft. It is a recipe for disaster for an 18 year old kid to be making millions of dollars a year. I also think high school kids should go to college and if they want to pursue basketball further, at least they have had time to grow up and learn more. I can see why top high school talented would want to go straight to the NBA but if they went to college first they would develop more and ultimately have a better career. Also, some high school players want to go to the NBA just to cash out, which isn’t a good thing.
    2. What are the benefits of having players coming right out of high school?
    1. The benefits of having players come right out of high school to the NBA is to get talent young. There has been many successful high school players who were drafted immediately because they were trained by the best trainers in the world and developed playing against better competition. Also, high school players want to make money immediately so going straight to the NBA gives them the opportunity to make millions at the age of 18 year old.
    3. What would be some of the cons of players coming out of high school?
    1. Some of the cons of players coming out of high school would be giving them a lot of money. It is a recipe for disaster for an 18 year old kid to be making millions of dollars a year. Also, high school kids should go to college and if they want to pursue basketball further, at least they have had time to grow up and learn more. Also, that extra year gives players the opportunity to play against good college competition and develop their game and have a more successful NBA career. Many of the players coming out of high school are going to the NBA for the wrong reason… just to cash out. Overall, I think high school basketball players should at least be forced to go to college for one year, if not two.

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  2. This discussion infuriates me because it is all based on nonsense.  Why would I care if an NBA player joined right out of high school? What would happen?  The player would be young? That’s the NBA’s problem and not mine. The Chicago Tribune made it clear that other teams and careers do it without the fake concern over college degrees, so why must basketball keep this weird insistence on a year of college? The NBA should have no connection to the NCAA. Professionals sports are a money making enterprise.  They are not “professional” like you need to go to school and earn a license to do the job. It’s just ridiculous.  Colleges are caught constantly making up classes and grades for the kids on their basketball teams too.

    There’s only one connection - the NCAA loses talent.  That’s it.  A Lebron James would not have to waste a year of his money-making time pretending to care about his college team.  That’s the problem; colleges would lose money and prestige. But that’s not a problem for me.  And this argument doesn’t hold up to the statistics. College fans will still go to games and root for their teams even if the players are B+ talent level as opposed to A+. The Bleacher Report article stated the NCAA would only lose up to 7 players a season. And with one-and-done those players were never sticking around anyway. And none of the one-and-done teams made it anywhere noteworthy during March Madness this past year. The one-and-done kids “are not vital” to basketball Gardner writes,  and I agree.

    I’ve heard the ESPN folks talk about how players need that year of college coaching, etc.  Well let the NBA and its massive stockpiles of money coach them. Give me a break. Let the “G-league” try and make it on its own against the NCAA. Players are already choosing overseas playing to college so the NCAA is already missing some talent.

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  3. Should the NBA allow players right out of high school be eligible for the draft?
    I believe that high school players should not be allowed to get drafted right out of high school. This is just a bad idea. I think that high school basketball players need to get more experience by playing higher level competition. Division 1 basketball is a great opportunity for players to develop their skills, so they can get to the NBA and compete against the best players in the world. These players need stepping stones, and having them get drafted out of high school does not do anything for the players other than they will be getting paid.
    What are the benefits of having players coming right out of high school?
    I really don't see a lot of benefits, but if I had to choose one id probably say having the players learn from veterans and NBA coaches will help develop their game, and they can support themselves and their families by getting paid.
    What would be some of the cons of players coming out of high school?
    Some of the cons would be paying these 18 year olds millions of dollars. They are still young and we don't know what they will do with that money. Another con would be that these kids will not get a college education. I think that there should be regulations, so high school players have to go to college. It is way more beneficial to them.

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  5. 1. Should the NBA allow players right out of high school be eligible for the draft?
    I do not think the NBA should allow young players straight out of high school to participate in the draft. A young-adult or anyone below 21, does not have the right to purchase alcoholic beverages specifically because their mind is not fully developed. Therefore, how would an 18 year old athlete (who's mind is not developed!) balance the real world, fame, fortune and big league? I understand why these talented players want to challenge their skills; However their brains and bodies need more time to grow and acquire knowledge and skill in other fields besides basketball. Overall, talented high school basketball players should first attend college to build new connections and prepare for the transition into the big league and real world if they want to continue to pursue the sport.

    2. What are the benefits of having players coming right out of high school?
    A few benefits of having athletes coming straight to the NBA out of high school would be the fact that there would be more young athletes competing in games. There are many players who have received outstanding training and are therefore more competitive out on the courts. This would overall improve the teams and would probably draw more public attention on games. In addition, as said in the article, drafting some of the less fortunate high school athletes could benefit them as well as their families monumentally. These young players could potentially make millions of dollars.

    3. What would be some of the cons of players coming out of high school?
    A few cons of players coming into the NBA out of high school would be the amount of money they would make and how much money they think they can handle. No 18 year old could balance fame and millions of dollars as well as a full-time basketball career. Once again, in the article it mentioned how most of the drafted players are African American and originate from disadvantage backgrounds. These athletes need their educations. If an athlete is going to draft into the NBA at a young age, they should firstly take one or two years of college to continue to learn and develop more skills in different areas of interest.

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  6. I think that just-graduated high school athletes should be eligible for the draft. If someone is ready and skilled enough to be in the NBA, no one should try to stop them and force them into college or overseas. As the first article mentions, many other people will go into their career at a very young age and no one bats an eye, so why is basketball any different?

    Some of the benefits of having athletes straight out of high school would mean that the top athletes from these ages are playing, which would up the competition for the whole league. More people would pay attention to the league, and this would also be very economically beneficial to these young athletes and parents. At the moment, the only option before the pros is college, and student athletes are not able to be paid. Allowing players straight into the pros means they are making money right away.

    While making money is a pro for these athletes, it can become a problem when these kids come from nothing to more than they can even imagine. Trying to create a budget when you are making six figures is a very hard thing for young athletes to do. Also, these players are still young and could still be developing mentally and physically, which could lead to many injuries and struggling with dealing with the pressure of the pros.

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  7. I think that ultimately it should be up to the athlete whether or not they want to enroll in a university or opt for the draft. For some basketball is their only option, waiting 1-4 years to enter the nba could be risky as their is always a chance of injury. Not all athletes want to or ae willing to take that risk. Some benefits of letting highschool basketball players in the NBA is that they are eager to perform well and provide for their team. Also form the players point of view, they get to make a living straight from highschool and for those that need to, support their family. Some con's of highschool basketball players entering the NBA is whethere or not they can handle it. The NBA pre-season and regular season as very rigorous and much different from highscholl, traveling across the country in the matter of a week can take a toll on a young adult and whether or not they can handle it is questionable. Also, some of these athletes coming from small towns to being put into major cities with more money than they no what to do with can cause issues. If certain athletes let stardom control them their careers will plumit rather quickly. And finally, If an athlete were to have a career ending injury-- what comes next. Life as they knew it was older and all they have is a GED.

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  8. I think that ultimately it should be up to the athlete whether or not they want to enroll in a university or opt for the draft. For some basketball is their only option, waiting 1-4 years to enter the nba could be risky as their is always a chance of injury. Not all athletes want to or ae willing to take that risk. Some benefits of letting highschool basketball players in the NBA is that they are eager to perform well and provide for their team. Also form the players point of view, they get to make a living straight from highschool and for those that need to, support their family. Some con's of highschool basketball players entering the NBA is whethere or not they can handle it. The NBA pre-season and regular season as very rigorous and much different from highscholl, traveling across the country in the matter of a week can take a toll on a young adult and whether or not they can handle it is questionable. Also, some of these athletes coming from small towns to being put into major cities with more money than they no what to do with can cause issues. If certain athletes let stardom control them their careers will plumit rather quickly. And finally, If an athlete were to have a career ending injury-- what comes next. Life as they knew it is over and all they have is a GED.

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  9. I think the NBA should allow this. When a athlete has the ability to go to the pros out of college he has the chance at making millions of dollars. The only reason people really go to college is to get a job after college. If these athletes get more than a lot of people get in their whole lives a few men should not not get in the way of people's futures. If players go to college have get injured and miss out on a huge pay day it would destroy their entire future. At least if they go to the NBA they will get the paycheck and be more secure in the future. The only con is really for the owners. They’re making million dollar investments on 18 year old kids who they’ve only seen play in high school. Going to college at least for one year can give the franchises more information on these kids, so that their investment pays off.

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  10. 1) I think that the NBA should allow 18 year old high school players in the draft. I believe that if players are attracting attention from NBA scouts then they should be allowed to enter the league at 18. This will keep players from taking away time and energy from achieving their ultimate goal of playing on the professional level.
    2) Young players who enter the draft right out of high school can focus 100% on their technique and skill rather then being split 50/50 with college classes. Young players will also have the ability to have more time in the league, thereby helping them develop in the professional level.
    3) I think that the only real con is giving the players such a high salary. At such a young age some players might not be financially compliant enough to use their wages responsibly.

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  11. I think that although this may rarely happen, it should be up to the athlete's coming out of high school to decide whether they want to go pro or go to school. If an athlete is so good to the point where they and their agent believe that said athlete has a chance at the pros, they should be given the opportunity to do so without wasting a year in college. I think that for players coming out of high school, they may have a longer career as they start out younger and can learn a lot more when they start younger. Also, those that come out of high school can better support their families financially. Some cons are the fact that high school students may be too young and if they don't get their education and don't get drafted, they may end up without a job and not being able to go to college.

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  12. Should the NBA allow players right out of high school be eligible for the draft?
    Yes, I think that players who don’t want to participate in the NCAA should be allowed to declare for the NBA right out of High School. Some kids really need the money for their families or themselves and instead of taking bribes from the NCAA’s top organizations, they should legally be able to go to the NBA teams. I wish these kids would be able to see the full value of a College education but most top prospects going to the NBA out of college only go for one year so they wouldn’t even be receiving a full education. I want to see the NBA do more to educate and mature these kids by giving them secure jobs if the NBA doesn’t workout.




    What are the benefits of having players coming right out of high school?
    There are many benefits to having players come out of High School. Players don’t have to forfeit their rights and profits to the NCAA, the players can benefit greatly from a lucrative contract (especially if they can come from a socio-economic background), also they can possibly develop faster going to the NBA right away.



    What would be some of the cons of players coming out of high school?
    Some say that many high school athletes aren’t mature enough to handle the pressure and money given to them. The NCAA can provide necessary coaching and prep for the NBA that cannot be given anywhere else. Finally, many people fear it will hurt the level of play of the NCAA.

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  13. I think that players should be allowed to go straight from high school to the NBA because it allows them to use their abilities and talent while they're young and healthy. It also allows them to make money and support their families.

    The benefits of players going straight to the NBA is that it makes the game more exciting with all the new young talent entering the league and evolving the game.

    The cons of players going straight from High school to the NBA is that a lot of young players are too immature to handle the platform of the NBA and the amount of money that is dumped onto their laps. College also allows players to develope their skills and level of maturity.

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  14. No, NBA players should not be allowed right out of high school to be drafted because their levels of maturity are not as high as players who at least go to college, and with that being said their level of skill and playing closer to a professional level.

    Drafting players straight out of high school could be a pro because they are younger, and they can time time to be developed and learn under players who are older and more experienced.

    Levels of maturity again would be something that would be a huge issue kids straight out of high school are more impulsive than kids who have at least had time in college.

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  15. The NBA should not allow players to go straight from high school into their league. The only obvious benefits of letting players join the NBA straight out of high school is the money they can make to support their family. But it is impossible to tell if they will use this money for the right reasons. Teenagers will spend the money they make with reckless abandon if given the chance. The cons of players coming straight from high school outweigh the benefits. One of these cons is the fact that high schoolers are nowhere near mature enough to play professional sports. Boys do not completely mature and make good decisions until their 20s. If an 18 year old starts making lots of money, they will not make good decisions with it. College is a good place to mature and learn more about how to make good decisions financially.

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  16. I think it is the players choice to decide if they want to go into the NBA right after high school or wait to go into it. People may say its unfair to have 18 year old kids in the NBA going against 40 year olds, but its the players choice. The benefits of players going to the NBA right from high school is it evolves the game and the players. These players could get these lucrative contract changing their life forever.
    These young adult athletes making huge amounts of money, they could have trouble making a budget. This can lead to the players running out of their money and creating trouble by them selves. The only way to fix this problem would to put in the rule making players to go to college for at least one year. These young athlete may just need to develop before going into the NBA.

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  17. I do not believe that players should be eligible for the NBA right out of high school. With that said, there are certain benefits of having such little restrictions on an athlete. For example, once-in-a-generation players such as LeBron James and Kobe Bryant are put on display a year earlier for fans to witness their greatness. Moreover, they have the ability to receive an extra year to have a legitimate taste at the lifestyle of a true professional. This can also be beneficial financially, as many NBA players come from poor backgrounds and need the money sooner rather than later. However, these pros do not weigh out the cons. While it is nice to see certain players on the biggest stage as soon as possible, it is not always in their best interest. Big time busts such as Kwame Brown, Sebastian Telfair, and Robert Swift among others have proven that the time, commitment, and money associated with being a professional are too much to handle at such a young age. Along with this, it is critical that even the most talented high school players continue to evolve their skills and ensure that they did not dominate solely due to their size advantage in high school. Simply put, it is best that high school players are not eligible for the NBA draft.

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  18. I think the NBA should allow players to be eligible for the draft right after high school for two reasons. The first reason is that if the Athlete plans on being "one and done" in college, there isn't really a point of going to college because your the player would only be going just so he can be drafted the next year. The second reason is that if the player truly is good enough to go straight from high school into the NBA, why shouldn't he be allowed to do so? A benefit of having players come right out of high school is that the team that drafts them can develop them for a long time so that player can be as good as he could be in the years after their rookie year. Also, the players can establish a very good connection with teammates which will boost chemistry for the team and make the team better. Some cons of players coming out of high school into the NBA is the maturity level of that player because if he is really young, he will be much less mature than the older people on the team and that can cause a lot of drama.

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  19. Players shouldn't be allowed to declare for the draft out of high school, for a few reasons. First, these kids are depriving themselves of an education. It's impossible to see into the future, so no one knows if they will be a bust or not. If so, the only thing they've known their entire life, basketball, has been taken away from them. This leaves them in a society where the lack of an education can hurt them. Secondly, giving teenagers these large sums of money can be harmful. There is still an immaturity factor, so the pressures of the NBA might be too much to handle that young. Overall, these kids should have a chance to mature and receive an education before they enter a career where nothing is guaranteed.

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  21. No, I do not think that NBA players should not be allowed to be drafted when they are right out of high school. These players have not fully developed and their maturity levels are not as high as players who at least go to college. Players who have attended college and potentially played for their college team are often more seasoned to the game and are more self aware. I also do not think that down right taking away their chance of having a college level education is unfair. Although these players are young and can seem very positive to have younger payers on the team, I feel that the players need more time to develop into who they are, and gain more training at the college level. That being said the college level athletes are playing in more intense, highly traveled games rather than a student that attends high school. By going to college you prepare the athlete to adapt to those big chances from one level to another. I feel that taking kids right from high school is very impulsive. I think the players need to be more educated and learn to play in very serious, large, and highly traveled college teams that are similar to the NBA.

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  22. I think whether or not the NBA should allow high school athletes to enter the draft should be up to the individual not an organization who puts restrictions on this type of matter. If an athlete feels he is ready (mentally and physically) to enter the draft, why should someone stop him? Especially, if that person in particular needs the money to provide a stable life for himself and his family. Likewise, if an athlete wants to pursue a college degree or feels that playing at a D1 level for a year or two would help develop their skills to be prepared for a professional level then they can choose to go to a university. I do not think it is fair for the NBA to put restrictions on what an athlete can do with their life especially because the few who have been chosen out of high school such as LeBron James, Dwight Howard, and Kobe Bryant have been outstanding in their careers. The only pros I see for athletes being able to join the pros immediately from high school is that they would be able to make life easier for their family if they were struggling financially. Also, the league would indulge in younger players where they are hungry for playing time and fame. I think this would make professional basketball even more enjoyable to watch. As much as making money is a pro, it is also a con. An 18 year old making millions of money is most likely a catastrophe waiting to happen. Teenage kids are not the most responsible and most would not know how to handle their new found cushion of economic security. Lastly, having the best few 18 year olds in the nation go straight to the draft makes the NCAA lose potential stars for even just a year. Some of the most elite skill would not enter the college basketball world and the NCAA might lose viewers due to the lack of one and done stars.

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